tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927656707266570435.post127313783153009430..comments2023-08-26T10:51:05.824-04:00Comments on The Way: Some Thoughts On Free will, Calvinism and ArminianismJoanne Guarnieri Hagemeyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00748082359446872048noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927656707266570435.post-59251095427115416452010-02-08T10:29:42.404-05:002010-02-08T10:29:42.404-05:00It IS a fascinating study, I agree. The idea of p...It IS a fascinating study, I agree. The idea of prevenient grace is intriguing, and is one of the key differences between what is usually referred to as Calvinism or Arminianism.<br /><br />the kind of human will that Luther described is also the kind of will that recent researchers have described in terms of the conscious will and the subconscious -- with the subconscious being the rider, and Joanne Guarnieri Hagemeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00748082359446872048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927656707266570435.post-1320513449202926412010-02-07T20:09:31.261-05:002010-02-07T20:09:31.261-05:00Hello again,
This stuff really is interesting ...Hello again,<br /> <br /> This stuff really is interesting to read about and research. I have the books in my library but not to good or fast at typing to say what I'm thinking. <br /> <br /> However, I did find online this journal that explains better then I ever could some thoughts on human will, <a href="http://www.quodlibet.net/articles/ristau-luther.shtml" rel="nofollow">here</a>! <br /dutchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10350738645146526972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927656707266570435.post-41476865145559077142010-01-21T22:34:23.877-05:002010-01-21T22:34:23.877-05:00You really got me to thinking about Adam. The Bibl...You really got me to thinking about Adam. The Bible doesn't weigh in on whether he was a perfect creation, you're right, and it's true he was certainly innocent, and abiding with the Lord (Who walked in the Garen with him). And yet in his innocence, in his right relationship with God, he still was able to choose evil.<br /><br />I think this is why the converstaion goes on and on Joanne Guarnieri Hagemeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00748082359446872048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927656707266570435.post-87360874762676291872010-01-19T00:10:46.614-05:002010-01-19T00:10:46.614-05:00It seems we are saying pretty much the same thing,...It seems we are saying pretty much the same thing, just in slightly different lingo. <br /> <br /> I do see a few things a little different though, John 10 I see as security of salvation rather than assurance of salvation. <br /> <br /> Another thought, sinners are condemned not for rejecting Christ but because they are sinners and guilty of breaking Gods law. We will be held responsible dutchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10350738645146526972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927656707266570435.post-51301558605822988682010-01-16T21:13:58.300-05:002010-01-16T21:13:58.300-05:00Some good thoughts in there. In the Bible electio...Some good thoughts in there. In the Bible election Human responsibility are perfectly balanced. Calvinism seems to weight election, whereas Arminian-ism seems to weight human responsibility.<br /><br />But actually, the really key difference, in my opinion, between the Calvinist and the Arminian is the endpoint. Do we have assureance of salvation or not? <br /><br />When Jesus says, in John 10Joanne Guarnieri Hagemeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00748082359446872048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927656707266570435.post-92157312717593298682010-01-16T20:29:19.768-05:002010-01-16T20:29:19.768-05:00Hi Joanne,
Well thought I'd think out loud so...Hi Joanne,<br /><br />Well thought I'd think out loud some more if that’s cool.<br /> <br /> This post really got me thinking about the conflict between Calvinist/Reformed<br /> and Arminian doctrine. Where is the root cause of conflict? Is it the non biblical term free will?<br /> I'm not sure it is technically, I think the problem is in the following verse, KJV Ro 4:4- Now to him dutchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10350738645146526972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6927656707266570435.post-70514336321240978362009-12-21T22:50:34.998-05:002009-12-21T22:50:34.998-05:00You Said: The Bible doesn’t offer a definition of ...You Said: The Bible doesn’t offer a definition of what the phrase “free will” means and in fact says that even your faith and mine is a gift from God; not originating, in other words, in ourselves. <br /> <br /> I agree 100%,,,seems rather ambiguous for the phrase to permeate so much of christian doctrine.<br /> <br /> As for myself, I will forever be glad that I <br />became a 5 point calvinist dutchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10350738645146526972noreply@blogger.com